Curse

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 17, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Yeah... it shows how often you run IWAY, Spirit Spamming, Blood Spiking, Zergway, or whatever else the flavor of the month build is that is ridiculously imba.

Firstly, there is (or used to be) variety in HA. Some people ran hex pressure, some ran condition pressure, some ran heavy shutdown, some ran builds that focused on physicals and some ran caster pressure builds. In fact, most of the rank10+ people I know and used to know got most of their fame running strong balanced builds that easily destroyed the metas when played properly. Secondly, what's so bad about running meta? The point of the hero title is to show how experienced you are in HA, so that when you're pugging for people you have something to judge them by other than their word. If you got your r10+ running bspike or iway (hi MATH) obviously you ran it properly and understood the skill and game mechanics, communicated well with your groups and so on. Yes, there may be people who have a high rank and are completely hopeless but they would be a minority.

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Originally Posted by HawofStorms

Most of the best PvPers I've met are in the rank 2-5 range. The ONLY way you can get as high as rank 8+ is to either
a) run gimmick builds non stop
b) actually be legitamately that good (like in a high end HA/GvG guild)

Wrong, there are far too many R10+ players who've never played gimmick builds to disprove your assumptions. If you're a core member in a high end HA/GvG guild and that guild performs well on a regular basis then obviously it says something about your individual skill (or that of the other 7 players). Even so, there would be many players who pugged or flisted their fame.

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Originally Posted by HawofStorms

I mean, not EVERYBODY with high rank runs gimmicky stuff. There are people who are legitamately good at the high end PvP.

If you're talking about the hero title then obviously they're good. A R10 Bspiker will be good at playing HA running Bspike. Similarly, a R10 balanced player will be good at playing HA running balanced, and know how to beat bspike, but not necessarily good themselves at running it.

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Originally Posted by HawofStorms

The fame system is intrinsicly broken. The GvG/HB ladder and the ELO system is a far better system for determining actually skill. Fame jus determines grind... which makes it no different from any PvE title.

It's simply indicative of your experience. And it's hardly comparable to a PvE title.. fail.

EDIT: I misunderstood the use of the world "useless" in the title. An actually useless title would be one that doesn't grant you anything extra or represent anything about you. Perhaps the SS title.

Master Sword Keeper · Jan 17, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Sunspear.
Its such a freakin worthless title.

/disagree

without it, My sunspear skill's wouldnt be as effective as they are now,
therefore my farming builds wouldn't work as good as they do now,

But here's a thought, I want a little icon up the top left of the screen like the Lightbringer title that gives some kind of bonus. What's the point of having a R10 SS title when Lightbringer R8 has an icon with some barely noticable bonus effects.

"Sunspear"

All Kournan Damage is reduced by 2.....45% plus an additional 2% for every Sunspear title you have earnt.
(or something similar to that)

That way Sunspear wouldnt be just a title that says COMMON.

Thorondor Port · Jan 17, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Id pick unlucky

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 17, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

/disagree

without it, My sunspear skill's wouldnt be as effective as they are now,
therefore my farming builds wouldn't work as good as they do now,

Oh, so true. I guess there really isn't a "useless" title.

genofreek · Jan 17, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Gamer, IMO. Doesn't give any benefits as far as I know, other than being another way to tell you've spent too much time logged in. XD

Rathcail · Jan 17, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by Craywulf

I really wish the title Legendary Defender of Ascalon didn't require death-leveling as there's nothing defensive about killing yourself.

The name could use a change, but I like the fact that it's like an opposite of Survivor. Survivor, exp without dying. LDoA, exp with dying.

As for most useless, for me it's Sweet Tooth. It just feels utterly pointless to have Sugar Rushs inside towns.

baz777 · Jan 17, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Title: Guild Leader

No one listens

Turtle222 · Jan 17, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

All of them.

we have a winner....cept for beneficial ones that is

Vaal 84 · Jan 17, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Clearly unlucky is the most useless title. It does nothing, and it's virtually impossible to max.....

Dev121 · Jan 17, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by CougarTheTall

Also, personally, I believe that the more time and effort you put into something, the sweeter the reward feels once you achieve it.

So you would rather spend hours grinding than having a game that makes you think as well as challanges you? You already stated you used UB for your titles as with the 95% rest of people thats why their worthless as well as your lack of skill complete them with a challange. If you were playing pong everyones paddle would be the same size as the enemies, yours would be the same size as the level, time = not fun in the context that if it only takes time to complete then whats the point? You can show how much of a life you have with those titles and thats about it. But then again you got your
e-peen so you can move along. Tell your friends at school how people tell you in a video game how cool you are while your at it.

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

It does take skill (knowledge) to vanquish everything there is to vanquish, especially with H/H.

Dont kid yourself, using UB = Domination. If you cant use UB and win then well... go back to faction farming. I'd like to ask you, what does the title give you? A sense of accomplishment? For doing practically the same thing for hours on end... on end ........ on end?

Miss Puddles · Jan 17, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

oh god, not this debate again.
"titles suck!"
"no they don't"
"noob!"
"no ur a nub!"

we can all agree that titles are really just something to show your epeen. in terms of what is actually "USEful" that would only include sunspear/lightbringer and the gwen titles, minus master of the north. that's it. close thread.

Ouchie · Jan 17, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Vaal 84

Clearly unlucky is the most useless title. It does nothing, and it's virtually impossible to max.....

I have to disagree - it completes my necro

gloria vander belt · Jan 17, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

i like all titles, none are useless

plus they show my achievements, and how good i really am, i love it when people see my title and there like wow, how did you get legendary survivor on your assassin!!

Dev121 · Jan 17, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

i like all titles, none are useless

plus they show my achievements, and how good i really am, i love it when people see my title and there like wow, how did you get legendary survivor on your assassin!!

This post is what 99% of gw players think now and you wonder why people quit the game.

Miss Puddles · Jan 17, 2008, 02:52 PM // 14:52

if 99% of people loved titles then why would they quit because of titles? o.O

Dev121 · Jan 17, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

if 99% of people loved titles then why would they quit because of titles? o.O

Possibly because people have already quit? Your parents were cousins I presume?

makosi · Jan 17, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

This post is what 99% of gw players think now and you wonder why people quit the game.

Geez, who pissed in your cheerios? Someone makes a positive post and you impart negativity on it.

Anyway, my award for the most useless title goes to Connoisseur of Confectionaries. At least Drunkard requires more thought than clicking.

Miss Puddles · Jan 17, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Possibly because people have already quit? Your parents were cousins I presume?

you were speaking of people quitting in present tense, not past. let's douse that little flame, shall we?

Dev121 · Jan 17, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

you were speaking of people quitting in present tense, not past. let's douse that little flame, shall we?

The statement contained no tense, why people quit the game = could be present or past. If I told you how I meant it and you still change it back then clearly my first question went unanswered for a reason.

Miss Puddles · Jan 17, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

ok cupcake, you go do your thing.

it seems to me that the terms "useless" and "easiest to get" are being interchanged a lot. makosi, you pointed out that sweet tooth is easier to get than drunkard and is therefore more useless. but neither of those titles actually DO anything for you, so they are both equally useless. unless you get some kind of bonus ingame from having such-and-such title, they are all useless. in terms of utility, only the titles i mentioned above have any real benefit.
oh, i did forget to mention those that affect salvages/lockpick retention. so add lucky, treasure hunter, and wisdom.